Comments - An encounter with a fraud - RealPagan- Paganism for the Real World

I don't think you have ever t…

2011-01-13T22:44:59.782Z

I don't think you have ever told me about this, but it is still a great story to share. All the more reason why people should learn to think for themselves and be skeptical at the things they are told. <3

Ive come across far too many…

2011-01-12T00:28:35.755Z

Ive come across far too many of these sorts of people, even within my own religion, however always outside of Russia. I'm sure they are there, but so many were raised around it or had a family member, it's not as uncommon a religion as Paganism to run in a family. So the amount of people who want to be rebellious and unique and be something special are lower. I dont understand what makes people act like this, beliefs are nothing to play with... but I figure, they will get theirs eventually. if not by an anger, then by the Gods themselves for making a joke out of them.

I ran into one of these in Ca…

2011-01-11T22:13:23.600Z

I ran into one of these in Cali in 1989. I got taken in, along with others, and the ride was short. He took alot from the people he was trying to "lead". I got out after a week, when i found out the name he was using was assumed and not real. He had his story down perfectly, including using conversations of others to make it look like he knew us, and people in our past, intimately. He used the people up, distroyed a few lives, and left. He was great at building a persons self-esteem up to the point of manuplination, and then getting what he wanted out of them. At the time i was going through a divorce, and a spiritual crisis, and was very vulnerable, but i was at least smart enough to ask questions of this guys past to realize he was a fake.

It would seem so obvious woul…

2011-01-11T04:12:04.993Z

It would seem so obvious wouldnt it?....My words of thought, besides Im so sorry this has happen to others, besides myself, and boy did it happen to me.....vet and vet and vet again. And most important...LISTEN to your gut,..and question any and all things. Even a rattlesnake can be convincing....until its to late. Lea

Bs-Meters are handy of course…

2011-01-11T04:10:22.992Z

Bs-Meters are handy of course, but for us stay at home moms, the ability to know the veggies are under the napkin on the left side of your 3rd oldest's plate in the dining room, while answering the door in the parlor is priceless. If only that worked for people other than our kids......ah the power.

The most valuable "sixth-sens…

2011-01-11T04:02:03.987Z

The most valuable "sixth-sense", I believe, is a BS meter. :)

I remember a few years back t…

2011-01-11T03:51:58.981Z

I remember a few years back there was a female that came into the store that I worked at. She noticed my pentagram ring and all of the sudden she opens up the floodgates of her stories of magic and mystery and fairy circles etc. She invited me to a gathering, to witness her coven apparently. I acted like I was going to go but never did. Something didnt sit right with me. I guess I just have that "sixth sense" she liked to talk about so much. Her stories were fantastic for graphic novels and the like. Anyway, after declining her for the third or fourth time, I find out from another friend who actually went to one of her gatherings. It was an orgy. no thanks! haha. Lucky me, my lack of trust in people truly came through for me then. I haven't seen her since.

Frauds and charlatans play to…

2011-01-10T17:00:34.687Z

Frauds and charlatans play to the ego; they pander to a blind need for difference and the quest for knowledge. A rift can be created between the closest friends by a stranger of questionable intent...

Were you queued simply through the bogus information he was passing out, by your covener's reaction, or did his energy feel, 'greasy'? Was it your intellect or your intuition that rang the first warning bells?

A good tale to help others learn what many of us have experienced, hopefully without their having to repeat our mistakes or trials. Thanks Sang.

A prime example of He who spe…

2011-01-10T14:54:40.645Z

A prime example of

He who speaks much, knows little.

He who speaks little knows much.

this definately teaches me to be more wary... thankfully i haven't come into contact with anyone likely to lead me astray, but i guess there is a first time for eveything.

Thank you for sharing, you are very knowledgeable, and i admire your wisdom :)

Things you say always make some impact on me in one way or another.

"Cherokee" I wonder if this…

2011-01-10T14:18:40.640Z

"Cherokee" I wonder if this fellow is the same "Cherokee" that made his "round"in Florida an Georgia from about 1995 to 2003 . He move on the outer fringes of the RainBow people, I hate to say it they are(the rainbow folk) are pretty gullible. This Kat was "Stone Carrier" A cherokee medacine man and also a Lakota Shaman(yes I know oh come on please how dumb are we) he would pray on women mostly but if he could con you an you were male he would . the sad thing is the number of saps that line up to buy his bovine plater.

The two things that make me wonder if this could be the same clown, one the stone carrier thing an what you said about him selling dream catcher out of his truck. pluse he sold peace pipe and medicine bags. One think that was odd I thought was he didn't seem to hipp on getting togather with other FN folk "there was a Hit "on him for sharing his knowledge with the white man.this play a long way with the dumb "white bread" kids who he pray on in there thinking they were helping him pass on his knowledge to save the white man. he was a big one for "helping you with your spirit guide" for a fee of course. but it was never straight up cash, gas ,weed or ass. pulse if you bad spirits that live in your lodge(house) you know like in your new tv or a chain saw your fishing gear,you name it could be home to many bad things. An being he want to help an save his white brothers and sister (an the sisters boy did he work hard there no pon intended) he would take away the bad spirit along with what it was living in.That way it had no home to come back to.I do know also he could get very nasty if he didn't get his way.

I know he about got his butt killed down in the Glades by the Seminoles an Miccosukee for selling Indian artifacts on trible land(peace pipe an war club and medicine bag) an for impersonating a human being(i'm sure some of you knows what that means). I think the only reason he was turn over to the tribal police an they let him go was because he had the daughter of a state senator with him(her dad vote in there favor a few times), they were at a regional gathering(rainbow)

Now it may not be the same Cherokee at all. I do know he had been up in that part of the world(the Carolin's)The weekend tie dyed RainBow warriors set that I knew that brought him to the Sarasota area met him out in Seattle then went to Ashville NC with him. the thing is sadly there will always be "Cherokees" like this sham artist we have them in all walk of life. I myself find him an folk like him no different then then o'l Bernie Madoff when you con you con.There a lesson in this but sadly most folk see what they"want" to see an "hear"what they want to hear. An it not until it is to late and cold hard fact of the light of day slap them up side there pointy little heads, do they get fact that no matter how hard they try you just can't get that mule to climb a tree. No matter how much you pay for your tree climbing mule that also sings old Suzanna,as it turn out it just a mule imagine that.

We need more folk like you sang that use your noodle for thinking not just a place to put pretty hats.

On a bit of a foot note I wonder just what all your friend lost beside a true friend,at the hand of the Stone Carrier.