Comments - "Black" and "White" Magic - RealPagan- Paganism for the Real World 2012-12-21T09:46:10Z http://realpagan.net/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6330711%3ABlogPost%3A365&xn_auth=no The point of this blog being… tag:realpagan.net,2011-01-05:6330711:Comment:35699 2011-01-05T09:46:41.699Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata <p>The point of this blog being that the intent does not anyways matter.  Magic can have unexpected consequences.  Even if your intent is *good*, in your opinion, all the consequences may not be.</p> <p> </p> <p>Also, if you are going to post author's opinions in my blogs in the future please be prepared with the author's name and title of the book.  I cannot find that book by a Caskaris or similar name for reference. </p> <p>The point of this blog being that the intent does not anyways matter.  Magic can have unexpected consequences.  Even if your intent is *good*, in your opinion, all the consequences may not be.</p> <p> </p> <p>Also, if you are going to post author's opinions in my blogs in the future please be prepared with the author's name and title of the book.  I cannot find that book by a Caskaris or similar name for reference. </p> So why is specific magic call… tag:realpagan.net,2011-01-05:6330711:Comment:35697 2011-01-05T09:33:38.697Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata So why is specific magic called "Black" by this definition??  By the more traditional, the one that this blog addresses, at least it makes logical sense...even if it is wrong.  Black has negative connotations.. black represents "evil" and "bad" to many cultures and people.  So used to represent presumed "bad" magic at least the title makes sense.  Why call specific magic "black?" So why is specific magic called "Black" by this definition??  By the more traditional, the one that this blog addresses, at least it makes logical sense...even if it is wrong.  Black has negative connotations.. black represents "evil" and "bad" to many cultures and people.  So used to represent presumed "bad" magic at least the title makes sense.  Why call specific magic "black?" Stonewolf, I completely under… tag:realpagan.net,2011-01-05:6330711:Comment:35691 2011-01-05T09:07:39.691Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata Stonewolf, I completely understand what you are trying to say, but manipulating a *person* whether a specific person or a non-specific person is manipulation, end of story.  And manipulating a person effects their free-will.  Events *might* be a little different, but not always.  If you are manipulating events, you may have manipulated a person to put those events into play.  I find that the less specific your magic is the more chances there are for the unexpected.  Which brings me back to my… Stonewolf, I completely understand what you are trying to say, but manipulating a *person* whether a specific person or a non-specific person is manipulation, end of story.  And manipulating a person effects their free-will.  Events *might* be a little different, but not always.  If you are manipulating events, you may have manipulated a person to put those events into play.  I find that the less specific your magic is the more chances there are for the unexpected.  Which brings me back to my original point.  There is no "good" or "bad" magic as all has the potential for harm.  And as these terms are subjective the concept itself becomes so.  Therefore,  there are no forms of magic that are definitively "good" or "bad." And where did this definition… tag:realpagan.net,2011-01-05:6330711:Comment:35566 2011-01-05T03:28:18.566Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata <p>And where did this definition come from again??  Because it makes no logical sense.  White is nonspecific magic and black is specific magic?  From what logic is this opinion formed?</p> <p>And where did this definition come from again??  Because it makes no logical sense.  White is nonspecific magic and black is specific magic?  From what logic is this opinion formed?</p> So how exactly is manipulatin… tag:realpagan.net,2011-01-05:6330711:Comment:35542 2011-01-05T02:18:32.542Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata So how exactly is manipulating an specific person different than maipulating a non-specific person??  So how exactly is manipulating an specific person different than maipulating a non-specific person??  The question about Green Witc… tag:realpagan.net,2010-12-20:6330711:Comment:29112 2010-12-20T15:14:55.112Z Kleiner Wolf http://realpagan.net/profile/KleinerWolf <p>The question about Green Witchcraft has already been put forth and "tackled", so there is no reason to really bring it up again. Only, to state that I associate more completely with Green Witchcraft, as well as Shaman beliefs. (I am still looking for more study material for Druidism and I will have to look into that Earth Magic you were talking about.)</p> <p> </p> <p>I have never put much thought into "White" or "Black" Magic. I have always seen these as something from Fantasy books/movies.…</p> <p>The question about Green Witchcraft has already been put forth and "tackled", so there is no reason to really bring it up again. Only, to state that I associate more completely with Green Witchcraft, as well as Shaman beliefs. (I am still looking for more study material for Druidism and I will have to look into that Earth Magic you were talking about.)</p> <p> </p> <p>I have never put much thought into "White" or "Black" Magic. I have always seen these as something from Fantasy books/movies. Only recently have I put started associating "Black" Magic with anything and that is with the Nocturnal side of things. Some of us reach our peak in our energy cycle when Mother Moon is out and Father Sun has descended into the horizon. (I like to refer to it as being Moon Called, as I love the myths and legends of Werewolves, but that is another topic all together.) It only seems natural to want to perform any type of Magic, from the most simple to the more ceremonial, when we are at the peak of our energy cycle. That is just my opinion.</p> <p> </p> <p>I love that you decided to post on this. There are many out there, whether they share the same beliefs or are from the more organized religions, that put some type of dogma as to Magic being "White" or "Black". It is nice to see that there are those of us out there that truly know Magic is just that, Magic. I always explain, when asked about Magic, that Magic isn't nothing more than Change. The leaves changing in the Fall, that is Magic. A seedling growing into a beautiful flower or tree, that is Magic. Changing my negative energy and thoughts into more positive energy and thoughts, that is Magic. Asking the Goddess and/or the God to help me or a loved one, the change (outcome) is Magic. Again, just my opinion.</p> I agree completely! Magic is… tag:realpagan.net,2010-12-09:6330711:Comment:22582 2010-12-09T02:49:28.582Z Dianna Greycat Silverclaw http://realpagan.net/profile/DiannaGreycatSilverclaw I agree completely! Magic is magic. I agree completely! Magic is magic. Dru, I'm glad you like. :P tag:realpagan.net,2010-11-19:6330711:Comment:9717 2010-11-19T00:02:13.717Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata Dru, I'm glad you like. :P Dru, I'm glad you like. :P :D :D :D :D :D :D tag:realpagan.net,2010-11-18:6330711:Comment:9691 2010-11-18T23:45:47.691Z Dru http://realpagan.net/profile/JohannaSvansdottir :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :) Guinevere, I think you've… tag:realpagan.net,2010-11-15:6330711:Comment:7095 2010-11-15T22:52:52.095Z Strata http://realpagan.net/profile/Strata :) Guinevere, I think you've got it. The thunderstorm was a very good analogy! And in the same breath while wildfires are devastating they are a necessity to the continuation of some plant species, whose seeds require the extreme heat. There is "good" and "bad" in all things. :) :) Guinevere, I think you've got it. The thunderstorm was a very good analogy! And in the same breath while wildfires are devastating they are a necessity to the continuation of some plant species, whose seeds require the extreme heat. There is "good" and "bad" in all things. :)