This group is for discussion of the Nordic Runes in all their forms. We will discuss their proper use in divination, magic and the quest for higher wisdom. Beginners, seekers and Runemasters alike are all welcome to share and learn.
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"Heill dagr! Heilir dags synir!
Heil nótt ok nift!
Óreiðum augum lítið okkr þinig
ok gefið sitjöndum sigr!
Heilir æsir! Heilar ásynjur!
Heil sjá in fjölnýta fold!
Mál ok mannvit gefið okkr mærum tveim
ok læknishendr, meðan lifum.
(English translation)
"Hail, day! Hail, sons of day!
Hail night and night's daughter!
With loving eye look on we gathered
and grant us great victories.
"Hail gods! Hail goddesses!
Hail the all-giving earth spirits!
Sage wisdom and goodly speech give to we who are renowned
And healing hands, life-long
from “Sigdrífumál”
Started by Cheston Heskett. Last reply by Cheston Heskett Aug 29, 2011. 3 Replies 0 Likes
this thread is specifically for us to share our thoughts and feelings about the most commonly sited sources for rune spells, the havamal and sigdrifumal, as well as any other findings we wish to…Continue
Tags: sigdrifumal, odin, magick, rune, havamal
Started by Cheston Heskett. Last reply by Cheston Heskett Aug 29, 2011. 3 Replies 0 Likes
I was really surprised to find that a group like this had not yet been created. I did see that some had already been asking questions about runes and I would like to address those questions now,…Continue
Started by Cheston Heskett. Last reply by Cheston Heskett Jun 30, 2011. 2 Replies 1 Like
I could swear that it was once easier to find pictures of artifacts bearing magical runic inscriptions. I had hoped to provide some links with this discussion. Perhaps some other members can find…Continue
Started by Cheston Heskett. Last reply by Cheston Heskett Jun 19, 2011. 7 Replies 0 Likes
those familiar with the runes will know that there are several different versions and it is never long before the question comes up; which is the "right" one? The simple answer is "all of them" any…Continue
Tags: divination, magic, edda, poems, Asatru
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neither is right actually. i have heard that some people have gotten results that way but, from my studies, I find both grossly un-traditional. Galdr is simply impromptu verse. the runes come into play through various allusions called "kennings" which may invoke the runes themselves through several means. the rune may be used in the spelling of the word, the word may refer to an object or something that is reminiscent of the shape of the rune, but, most often, it is some poetic connection to what the rune symbolizes. examples; "sun" (sowulo) may be invoked directly or indirectly through a kenning like "glory of the elves" (alf rodhull) which would invoke the runes berkena (birch goddess, mother of the disir, thus connected to the elves) and raidho (chariot, basis for the word rodhull). by using this kenning we change the power we invoke from the blinding and smiting light of the sun to a call for the spirits of nature to come to one's aid, a much more gentle invocation. the more simplistic way that i have used to some effect (though not nearly as great as the poetic way) is simply to intone the name of the rune itself. not chanting in various ways like those books say but rather using a sympathetic resonance. this method can only be taught in person though. i have actually written a book covering traditional rune magic available through my Zibbet store Woad Warrior Outpost. you can also connect through facebook.
I have read about Galdr. One book states that when you sing the rune you only use the vowels another has you reciting a rune in various ways. Which is right?
Hi Chaz,
Can you please clarify why divination works, particularly Runic divination? Thanks.
glad you agree, I have had issues in the past, both on here and in the real world community, because of my strong convictions about there being a "right and wrong way" when it comes to paganism and her traditions. It's one thing when there is just nothing to go on and we are forced to "make it up as we go" and quite another when all of the steps are outlined right there in black and white in the words of Odin himself! I have been accused of "proselytizing" for speaking this way so I am really happy to see that someone realizes that having strong religious convictions does not mean I am trying to convert people or that I expect to be treated as some kind of god. everyone expects me to accept them self applying terms which reflect on me yet differ greatly in the way we use them yet, in the same breath, will refuse me the same courtesy. I just feel that if you are going to call yourself a druid you should at least worship something vaguely Celtic and uphold the values and traditions we KNOW are attributed to them. likewise, if you are going to call yourself a rune master, you need to have a firm grasp, at the VERY LEAST, of the words of the Havamal. ideally, one should only use runes properly consecrated and made from the wood of a tree bearing an edible nut or fruit. rune sets of semi-precious stone are pretty, and may even "work" for you but that does not make them the best possible medium for rune casting. also, if you just "read runes" you are not a rune master because, once again, the Havamal states plainly that we must know how to read them, write them, consecrate them AND use them in magic. if you do not practice any form of rune magic you are a sooth-sayer, MAYBE a skald but certainly not runenmeister
I also wish people would get off this kick with the "elder" futhark. Just because it has "elder" in the name does not make it superior. I used the elder futhark for many, many years but I may now use the younger and anglo-saxon exclusively. the readings just come through so much clearer without having to consider so many different meanings at once. its not just me, every rune reading I have witnessed using the elder futhark has been vague, taking advantage of those various meanings to create a sort of open interpretation for the querent, that same old trick that all the fakers out there use. drawing directly from the rune poems and my knowledge of the history and cultural significance of the symbols therein I have gotten consistent and straight forward readings every time. it is just so much easier when the runes we are reading correspond directly with historically founded information rather than relying on years and years of hypothetical information derived from modern interpretation of someone else's modern interpretation!
lol yeah it is sometimes surprising how little the runes are studied considering their phenomenal potential and accessibility. I can personally attest that rune magic WORKS and they are always right there like an old friend. the thing is, they must be taken seriously, they must be treated with respect and the rules must be followed. yes, there are rules to rune magic, the havamal covers the basics, it is like a bible for Asatruar. many people take issue with my insistence on rules and such but that is just my experience. i dont like when people act like they can just MAKE things "do" whatever they want in whatever way they want it. you can bend meanings all day long and sometimes you can make them seem to fit in a divination for instance but your readings will be more accurate if you just take the time to truly understand them and trust them to tell you what you need to know. same goes with rune magic, take time to know what they can do and how to properly observe the rituals and you can harness real life changing power.
I am rambling a bit now, sorry, that happens sometimes lol. anyway, welcome! looking forward to talking more in the future!
why thank you Nicole :) wish it were more active. I have been busy with some personal maters lately and have not had time to shoot the videos i wanted. I did recently "prove" my Anglo-Saxon and Younger futhark rune sets however. it was actually pretty amazing how clear and accurate they were! i used both the same day for the same person and the message from both was the same. i drew my meanings directly from the rune poems and nothing else. the exercise confirmed a number of my theories so it was pretty exciting, only wish i had been able to video it!
anyway, welcome Nicole, hope to see more of you soon :)
Aww... yay to people being friends! Adults capable of expressing their feelings in healthy ways with words! (hugs everybody)
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Chaz, looking forward to my Younger Futhark rune reading. Lets do it soon! :)
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