Morning Glory Seeds - RealPagan- Paganism for the Real World 2016-06-12T20:55:11Z http://realpagan.net/forum/topics/morning-glory-seeds?feed=yes&xn_auth=no I have done some research on… tag:realpagan.net,2013-11-05:6330711:Comment:209905 2013-11-05T12:23:16.989Z Feo http://realpagan.net/profile/Feo <p>I have done some research on this root and plant as well, since it is not available in my country.</p> <p>There are a lot of different plants in the Ipomoea family. The one you want for High John's is the Ipomoea Jalapa or the Ipomoea Purga. Morning glory is part of the family, but I don't know if it's seed is High John's.</p> <p></p> <p><br></br>I also found this;<br></br><br></br></p> <p>Low John is the root of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillium" title="Trillium">trillium</a> or…</p> <p>I have done some research on this root and plant as well, since it is not available in my country.</p> <p>There are a lot of different plants in the Ipomoea family. The one you want for High John's is the Ipomoea Jalapa or the Ipomoea Purga. Morning glory is part of the family, but I don't know if it's seed is High John's.</p> <p></p> <p><br/>I also found this;<br/><br/></p> <p>Low John is the root of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillium" title="Trillium">trillium</a> or wake-robin, <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillium_grandiflorum" title="Trillium grandiflorum">Trillium grandiflorum</a></i>. It is carried on the person for assistance in family matters. It is also known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie" title="Dixie">Dixie</a> John or Southern John, and additionally is the basis for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodoo_(folk_magic)" title="Hoodoo (folk magic)">hoodoo</a> formula called Dixie Love Oil.</p> <p>"Chewing John" is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galangal" title="Galangal">galangal</a>, <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpinia_galanga" title="Alpinia galanga">Alpinia galanga</a></i> – a member of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger" title="Ginger">ginger</a> family. This is chewed much as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_tobacco" title="Chewing tobacco">chewing tobacco</a> is chewed, to sweeten the breath and to calm the stomach. It is said that if you spit the juice from chewing this root onto the floor of a courtroom before the<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge" title="Judge">judge</a> enters, you will win your case. Other names for this root are Little John and Little John to Chew. (This is called "Low John" in the Deep South.)</p> <p></p> <p>Wikipedia.</p> <p></p> <p></p> <p> </p> I've known a couple of people… tag:realpagan.net,2013-06-29:6330711:Comment:202114 2013-06-29T08:32:04.166Z Farscryer http://realpagan.net/profile/ScottHill <p>I've known a couple of people who ingested the seeds and also tried smoking them with marijuana.  They said they "sorta, kinda tripped".  One got sick; the other said he didn't feel very sick but also didn't trip very hard at all.  That's probably because of what Sangraal said about the distribution of LSA being random.  Neither of them thought the experience was worth it.</p> <p></p> <p>I also love morning glories, which we were able to keep well under control in our yard growing up - but…</p> <p>I've known a couple of people who ingested the seeds and also tried smoking them with marijuana.  They said they "sorta, kinda tripped".  One got sick; the other said he didn't feel very sick but also didn't trip very hard at all.  That's probably because of what Sangraal said about the distribution of LSA being random.  Neither of them thought the experience was worth it.</p> <p></p> <p>I also love morning glories, which we were able to keep well under control in our yard growing up - but that was probably with pesticides, which I wouldn't use.<span><br/> <br/></span> If you do not ingest it, morning glory can be a good underworld or shadow plant ally, along with other things you should be careful with like belladonna or mugwort.  It can also - again if you're careful and don't ingest it - help with lucid dreams and astral projection.</p> Oh the Morning Glory it look… tag:realpagan.net,2011-08-09:6330711:Comment:124347 2011-08-09T12:51:16.179Z Daniel O'Neill (Cat wrangler) http://realpagan.net/profile/DanielONeill <p>Oh the Morning Glory it look so lovely in someone else yard The blooms can be almost breath taking to see but it can be full of nasty waspy and spiders when the vine grow to full cover . We had it all over our place as  child my grand parent had a plant nursery in Florida where I grew up and they sold it up until the mid 70's it try to take over.</p> <p> It a worthy opponent I have seen it drive folk to all but dynamite to rid their property of this pesky vine only the Chinese lantern vine…</p> <p>Oh the Morning Glory it look so lovely in someone else yard The blooms can be almost breath taking to see but it can be full of nasty waspy and spiders when the vine grow to full cover . We had it all over our place as  child my grand parent had a plant nursery in Florida where I grew up and they sold it up until the mid 70's it try to take over.</p> <p> It a worthy opponent I have seen it drive folk to all but dynamite to rid their property of this pesky vine only the Chinese lantern vine or kudzu could be harder to kill.</p> <p> I myself really don't use it I did at one time have a man that bought seed from me  he use them in his folk art some how he dry them and use them like beads he also used castor seed.</p> <p>The only "magical" way I have ever seen it use and that was just the flower were if it was growing in old grave yard and the flowers were used in making garlens.</p> <p> I have  heard folk get pretty sick from just cutting out the plant or pulling on it root ball and getting the sap in open cuts on their hand it also a wise idea to stay down wind if you are burn it in a brush pile fire. the smoke can make feel sick or in some case kill you if you breath to much.</p> <p> Again I say Oh the Morning Glory it look so lovely in some else yard.!!!!!!!</p> It is true that morning glory… tag:realpagan.net,2011-08-09:6330711:Comment:123480 2011-08-09T06:57:48.447Z Vickie Looney http://realpagan.net/profile/VickieLooney It is true that morning glory are hard to get rid of but i still love them mostly because my grandmother had a wall of morning glory covering her front porch it was thousands of flowers each morning with the sunlight shining through it. It was a beautiful site and very peaceful to me as a child as i spent every weekend with her. She also grew Iris so those 2 flowers still make me feel her near when i see them. She was very in tune with the earth, and influenced me deeply as a child. I cannot… It is true that morning glory are hard to get rid of but i still love them mostly because my grandmother had a wall of morning glory covering her front porch it was thousands of flowers each morning with the sunlight shining through it. It was a beautiful site and very peaceful to me as a child as i spent every weekend with her. She also grew Iris so those 2 flowers still make me feel her near when i see them. She was very in tune with the earth, and influenced me deeply as a child. I cannot dislike the morning glory it is entrenched in my most loving childhood memories. Flammeous, to me it does, 100… tag:realpagan.net,2011-02-22:6330711:Comment:52847 2011-02-22T16:18:42.579Z VLM http://realpagan.net/profile/Shawn <p>Flammeous, to me it does, 100%.</p> <p> </p> <p>There are some plants which I relate to certain things, that others do not...  anything thorny, for instance, or prickly.  Things that are tough as nails etc. </p> <p> </p> <p>I've used some such things when doing something, that weren't in their "recommended uses." </p> <p> </p> <p>I think those recommended uses are more like, "To most, it means..."   The same goes with whether or not an herb's magical use is related to it's medicinal.</p> <p>Flammeous, to me it does, 100%.</p> <p> </p> <p>There are some plants which I relate to certain things, that others do not...  anything thorny, for instance, or prickly.  Things that are tough as nails etc. </p> <p> </p> <p>I've used some such things when doing something, that weren't in their "recommended uses." </p> <p> </p> <p>I think those recommended uses are more like, "To most, it means..."   The same goes with whether or not an herb's magical use is related to it's medicinal.</p> Next question, does ones inte… tag:realpagan.net,2011-02-22:6330711:Comment:52696 2011-02-22T13:50:16.124Z Flammeous {De Empress} http://realpagan.net/profile/Flammeous <p>Next question, does ones internal feelings and views of a particular herb or plant change the magical application of it?  </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>Next question, does ones internal feelings and views of a particular herb or plant change the magical application of it?  </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> ps: I moved this to the Secre… tag:realpagan.net,2011-02-21:6330711:Comment:52623 2011-02-21T21:13:41.379Z VLM http://realpagan.net/profile/Shawn ps: I moved this to the Secret Garden :) ps: I moved this to the Secret Garden :) Perhaps one thing to consider… tag:realpagan.net,2011-02-21:6330711:Comment:52747 2011-02-21T21:12:58.737Z VLM http://realpagan.net/profile/Shawn <p>Perhaps one thing to consider with morning glory.. is its relation to high john the conqueror roots and sweet potato?</p> <p> </p> <p>I feel for yo  though... It took me years to get rid of "old growth Morning Glory," that was at a place I was renting...   I finally did. </p> <p> </p> <p>Then the landlord started being a jerk so I said forget it, and started cultivating it, fertilizing it and so on...   That whole yard, to this day, looks like it was setup to farm the stuff :D </p> <p>Perhaps one thing to consider with morning glory.. is its relation to high john the conqueror roots and sweet potato?</p> <p> </p> <p>I feel for yo  though... It took me years to get rid of "old growth Morning Glory," that was at a place I was renting...   I finally did. </p> <p> </p> <p>Then the landlord started being a jerk so I said forget it, and started cultivating it, fertilizing it and so on...   That whole yard, to this day, looks like it was setup to farm the stuff :D </p> Actually, no THC, but rather… tag:realpagan.net,2011-02-21:6330711:Comment:52619 2011-02-21T20:03:43.261Z Sangraal http://realpagan.net/profile/sangraal Actually, no THC, but rather random small percentages of the alkaloid LSA, and only then within certain strains. Because the percentage varies even from vine to vine, and LSA itself can be lethal, its application within entheogenic context is extremely discouraged. Historically, it's not even been used as a cultural psychoactive, so there's really not much worthwhile discussion on it within this context.<br /> <br /> Otherwise, I am unaware of magical application. Herb-magic.com, a favorite resource of… Actually, no THC, but rather random small percentages of the alkaloid LSA, and only then within certain strains. Because the percentage varies even from vine to vine, and LSA itself can be lethal, its application within entheogenic context is extremely discouraged. Historically, it's not even been used as a cultural psychoactive, so there's really not much worthwhile discussion on it within this context.<br /> <br /> Otherwise, I am unaware of magical application. Herb-magic.com, a favorite resource of mine on this subject, does not even have it listed... Besides being a nuisance, I still find them very lovely.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br/> <br/> <cite>Katarina Ana (Wolfes Bane) said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://realpagan.net/forum/topics/morning-glory-seeds?xg_source=activity#6330711Comment52614"><div>I to am cursed with morning glory vines every where hadto poisen the flower beds and rototill last fall just to get ride of the things.On a side note morning glory is very high in thc the same as in canabus.There is a process you have to go about to get it out of the plant.Too much work.</div> </blockquote>